and how much was passed and what was done. >> bill: in that first -- obama administration. do you see -- maybe a better chance because of the political political -- let's see realities facing the republican party? a better chance on immigration? >> well, i do think there is a better chance on immigration. i think at one point they have to decide which one are they going to do. i think when the republicans woke up the day after the election and realized latinos voted, i think that they -- >> bill: hello! did they ever! >> i think they had to come to grips with that reality. and so i think there is a better chance on immigration. we'll just have to wait and see. i sit on judiciary. i sat through, as a matter of fact, our first hearing was about immigration and it went on all day long. and what was very clear that day was that they could handle immigration reform up to citizenship. we will make you legal residents but we just can't go that far. i think donald trump was the one who told the truth. he went to the cpac conference. what did he say? he said 11 million democrats. [